The Saga Continues - Another PM!

[ostarella]

Yes, she did! She sent me another one - which I again have sent to TPTB over at DS. Some neat quotes, folks:

"he was very hungover the Saturday of the Motor City Comic Con by his own admission during the his panel (which I have on camera now)"

Strange - because as I've said before, I was at that con and he certainly didn't look hung over to me. And I'd love to see her film of that panel (again, which I also was at) - must be a wonder in the world of "creative editing"

This referring to some person (no one I know, btw) who is apparently part of the infamous Dirkette Mafia (which, I'm proud to say, she now includes me as a member):

"she will pay for any vandalism to my mother's house no matter who really does it. I weigh more then she does, am stronger and I have my sanity."

Not only does that sound like an absolute threat, but my god - she has her "sanity" - by whose definition?

"I'm too grown up."

Right...

"Karma is a bitch and it does go around"

Does she even know what karma is?

She told me not to bother responding - and there probably is no point, as she would ignore anything I said. Funny, she's perfectly willing to say this crap in a PM but has yet to post publicly on DS. I'll bet when she does, it'll be so profound and full of truths it'll just knock our socks off...

Comments

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

This referring to some person (no one I know, btw) who is apparently part of the infamous Dirkette Mafia (which, I'm proud to say, she now includes me as a member):

"she will pay for any vandalism to my mother's house no matter who really does it. I weigh more then she does, am stronger and I have my sanity."

Isn't that stalking? ...a Dirk Fan, not even Dirk - SCARY!!!!

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

That's why I try to stick with specifics when I address her at all. And I think that's why she gets so bent out of shape with me - she and I actually had a fairly long exchange earlier, and when I kept coming back to specifics of where she was distorting things, and kept telling her if she would drop the issue, it would die - that's when the ranting began. But she attacks, then gets retribution, and in response, attacks yet again.

I did try to ignore her, but, as we've discussed before, there comes a point where one cannot sit back silently. And even then, I tried to reason with her. "Play nice", as it were. But that didn't work. And instead of taking this second ban as a clear indication that she needs to shut up, she's going the pm route to circumvent it. By contacting me, and making accusations against me (somehow I'm involved in the cyberstalking and threats now) she's made it personal. Had she not pm'd me to begin with...

So yeah, there's fault on both sides - but she has only herself to blame for starting the whole circus to begin with.

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

I just hope Dirk is none the wiser by these crazies!!!

Unfortunately, he is the wiser and alienated has made sure of that. This is what happens when you post your mailing address on the internet. All the "crazies" know exactly where to find you.

[mossy62.livejournal.com]

Oh my,will she never give up? What does she think she will achieve by such statements? You're much too nice, still trying to be fair to her. She doesn't even know what that word means.

I seriously thought about blocking her on DS, but I want to know what's going on. I hope she'll stay quiet, but I'm afraid she won't.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

I'm with you on the blocking - I'd considered it earlier, but then she could say anything outrageous and it would go unchecked.

You're much too nice, still trying to be fair to her.

Well, it's not so much being fair as making sure she can't say I'm bullying her (which she will anyway, but that's beside the point). She has had some nasty things done, but she's asked for it. She can't expect people to just sit back and take what she dishes out - there are better ways and worse ways of dealing with it, though.

She pushes me too far and - well, I've had lots of practice at defensive dirty-play myself ;-)

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

She won't say anything on the DS board because she knows she'll get trounced if she begins the flaming. It's been made *very* clear to her how the other posters feel and what they won't tolerate.

She'll begin to single out individuals and use the PM system. That PM she sent ostarella was unprovoked and her "don't contact me again" is all part of the sick game she plays.

She'll instigate, then when the poster responds, she'll cry "they're stalking me!"

She seems to have this dillusion that she's constantly on DB's mind and she deserves to be front and center in his life. So she continues to bait and flame in order to stay in the "spotlight". It's the attention she craves.

She's like a child. If she can't get positive attention, she'll throw tantrums to get ( albeit ) negative attention. To her it doesn't matter. It's attention all the same.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

As long as she stays off the forum, and lets everyone else enjoy it, I don't mind the PMs. I'd prefer she just disappeared, of course, but better a private tirade than put the last nail in the coffin of DS...besides, I can say things in any response pms that I wouldn't/shouldn't in public :p

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

Just be careful if you decide to respond to her in PM's because I can guarantee you, it will spill over into e-mails. Then you'll begin blocking and she'll just come up with another e-mail address to harass you with.

I've blocked 12 of them already.

She did this over on DBC. She came on and the staff, aware of the situation, let her stay because she stated she would not post, only view. She began to harass members via PM who contacted us and Dawg had a chat with her about the rules of the PM system. She went off on him and he promptly banned her.

If she can find a back door, she will.

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

She's like a child. If she can't get positive attention, she'll throw tantrums to get ( albeit ) negative attention. To her it doesn't matter. It's attention all the same.

Then you should all choose to ignore her... Put it this way, that's what I do to my 3 year old when he pulls a strop!

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Well, that's been tried. She just gets worse. I used to ignore my boy's tantrums, as well - but then when he started throwing things to get my attention - let's just say he got it. And he learned not to do it again. Unfortunately, she apparently doesn't catch on as quickly as a three-year-old...

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

(which I have on camera now)

As oppossed not having it on her camera earlier? Was there some recreation of this event? Did some secret friend send her photos that they took? Did the magic camera gnomes give her photos that hadn't been on her camera before?

I want pictures of celebrities to magically appear on my camera! I wouldn't even mind if they are admitting they are drunk, because that would mean I have a magic talking camera!

Which would be kinda cool.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

As oppossed not having it on her camera earlier?

Yeah, I liked that. Dirk probably sent it to her, as a show of his support...

okay, now that I've pulled my head out of the toilet...

[mossy62.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, Dirk would of course get drunk and then send the evidence to his most beloved fan...

Argh! Ostarella, is there some room over the toilet?

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

I want pictures of celebrities to magically appear on my camera! I wouldn't even mind if they are admitting they are drunk, because that would mean I have a magic talking camera!

Ani... when you get one, can you let me know where you got it... Coz I WANT one too :D (save me spending money on ebay for a start :D - which by the way I have a little collect going from ebay, and I really should share on DTD but I don't have a scanner, so need to take photo's of them - with my *real* digital camera - you know, the one where you do have to point and shoot!) lol!

[bibbinut.livejournal.com]

"I want pictures of celebrities to magically appear on my camera! I wouldn't even mind if they are admitting they are drunk, because that would mean I have a magic talking camera!

Which would be kinda cool."

I want one of those too. LOL
Maybe we should all get one. ;-)

WARNING LOL

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

I got warned by the mods because I let people know the troll was back - the message was deleted, as well. LOL Unbelievable. And yet her crap about Dirk is still up.

I replied to them, of course. Expressed my incredulity that they let her back on and gave me a warning. Also told them as long as it takes them forever to do anything, I wouldn't hesitate to respond in kind to any crap from her. Will be interesting to see how they respond to that...

But no response from them re: the pms she sent me. I love how the mods are so concerned about keeping their forums "nice".

Re: WARNING LOL

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Got a response already - stated they have the right to decide who can and cannot post, the terms and conditions are very clear and those who can't abide by them will not be allowed to post - and that the discussion was now closed.

Gotta love it. Just gotta love it...

Re: WARNING LOL

[mossy62.livejournal.com]

That's the big danger in this whole mess. The mods are neutral and don't know what's going on behind the curtains and there is a good chance that they'll pick out the wrong person and one gets banned for something someone else started :(

It looks like everything is okay for now though, so let's hope it will stay like this! Of course The Lounge is a big temptation to go astray and abandon DS... ;-)

Re: WARNING LOL

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Of course The Lounge is a big temptation to go astray and abandon DS...

Yeah - wasn't meant to really "compete" with DS, but we kinda figured a lot of people were just tired of the "possibilities" over there and didn't want to mess with it any more, so there should be someplace for them to re-group (was that a pun? :D)

We haven't gone with the live chat yet - we're going to wait and see how things go and then see what the members want. Have to admit those things confuse me (like I'm not confused enough already) but it's another option for the future.

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

Well alienated's forum status now reads "banned user", so I guess they really did decide who cannot post and who can ;-)

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

OMG! OMG!

My opinion of the mods just went up several notches.

(sighs)

Peace reigns again... :D

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

Well she's been banned twice before and let back ( which I just don't get ), so I'm *hoping* the mods have some "three strike" rule or something LOL.
At any rate, you were heard obviously and for now, DS is back in the hands of the fans ;-)