The hell with it...

[ostarella]

I've probably managed to get myself banned from Digital Spy. No big loss at this point, considering the place has been so thoroughly contaminated by one poster's vindictiveness. But I finally decided to call a spade a spade. Normally I try to ignore her, but when enough bricks hit you in the head, it's kinda hard to do.

But this whole forum rules thing bugs the hell out of me. Has for some time. How do you respond "politely" and "respectfully" to other members who choose not to post "politely" or "respectfully"? It's like fighting with both hands tied behind your back. I like the way ani handles it over DTD - if you let her know when someone pulls that shit, she comes down on them like a ton of bricks. The mods over at DS take forever to respond, if at all (in this case, *not* at all). So I figure if they don't care what she posts, I have the same rights.

The really sad part about this whole thing - well, actually, there are two. First, that friends and family of Dirk's have to see that kind of crap on the web, and second, that there are people out there ignorant of her whole pathetic issue who will believe what she says.

Comments

[beckyblack]

I went and found the thread and geez, what a knob that other poster is. She also clearly doesn't "get" what an Appreciation thread is defined by over there on DS either, even though it's right at the top of the page:
A place for fans of particular housemates to post constructive and positive messages.

Heck, she mustn't have been to any conventions on the UK. I'm not much for conventions myself, but from what I've heard, if you don't get completely blasted you're doing it wrong. :D

And heck, there are some acquaintances of mine, friends of friends kind of thing, that I've only met at parties etc. They've had a few drinks on those ocassions. Do I assume therefore that they are drunk every day? Of course not, that would be stupid.

If you get banned from Digital Spy I'll be massively impressed. That's like an internet badge of honour.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

If you get banned from Digital Spy I'll be massively impressed. That's like an internet badge of honour.

Well, if I get banned under these circumstances, I'll definitely consider it an honor. :D

[beckyblack]

They should have t-shirts or at least badges: "I've been banned from Digital Spy."

[beckyblack]

It's a huge forum over there of course. I suppose the mods have to prioritise the sub judicea and "libellous stuff that will get us sued" issues first. Hope they get your issue sorted and don't ban you!

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Well, it's been four or five days now - from what I understand, a *lot* of people complained about her post, so it would seem the mods are willing to let it fly. Frankly, if they're going to run a site that huge, they better make damn sure they have the personnel to cover it.

[beckyblack]

I wonder how many mods they have over there. Are they proactive or reactive? Do they "patrol" or wait for someone to report a dodgy post. They must patrol, because the legal issues could be very troublesome if they leave something libellous up there too long.

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

Well I know two wrongs don't make a right and all that... but sometimes they sure as hell make you feel better ;o) I shouldn't worry about it. Although it IS annoying when a *fan* takes it too far.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I mean, normally, if I do respond I *try* to stay well above her level. But I really felt like the guys must have in "Semi-Friendly Persuasion" - I tried to do it "their way" and it *just doesn't work*. So at least the "other side" is out there for as long as it lasts - enough people will see it so they won't just automatically take her word for things, at least.

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

See, I love how in life, we even do things the A-Team way :D That should be our new thing - "well in the end we did it the A-Team way" ;o)

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

DS from my understanding is like this huge thing and I suspect the mods have bigger fish to fry to be honest. Where as I have nothing better to do than release me wrath on people. =P Nor am I answerable to a corproation ^__^

Actually *blush* I better go check DTD. I hate to say this but I haven't had time to keep up with it as much as I should and was kinda relying on you and Tracy to report things if it got bad while I freaked out 6 ways to Sunday over my convention presentation ^^;;

But now hopefully I can get back to paying attention.

ON the behavior in question, man I have no comment other than I stopped trying to figure out stupid on the internet a LONG time ago. It's usually just people who want attention. I've seen friends of mine attacked like that (well I say attacke dlike that I've not been on DS in forever but I can take a good guess as the pattern changes not much at all) and it's just to make a name. You know attack the Big Name and people notice you and some people don't give a gosh darn of the attention is positive or negative.

What I don't understand is there's an entire other fandom that will quite gleefully agree with her when she bashes Dirk. So I don't know why she doesn't just go post to the other fandom and get positive attention.

I suspect she must just like aggrevating people -_-

Oh and yeah if yu get banned from DS I'll make you an icon to rpoudly display *LOL*

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Oh wow - an Ani Icon! Now I *really* hope I get banned! LOL

Well, look for more pictures posted on DTD by yours truly - DS will, alas, have to do without my contributions anon... ;-)

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

You know I enver even could get on there. Not worth the hassel.

I hope the Mustache pic is still on ebay when I get home. I need to scar some more people and I need to scan that magazine clip . . a lot of 'em actually. :(


One thought though, to be fair I say ummm equally horrific things about Paris Hilton. But then I don't go to a group of Paris Hilton fans and say these things. It's interesting though because you bring up friends and family and I gotta say personally I never invisioned DTD for those types either. Heck, as positive as they are, I'd think the discussion of the ahhhh "assets" of some the pictures on DTD is not something and exaclty something I'd want friends and family to see. I can't even imagine running into a thread discussing the sexiness of my dad online *LOL*

I think Tracy covers the "person" side fine so, I'm going for celebrity like 99% of all other LJ communities. =P

But that doesn't mean anythig goes clearly!
Even I have my limits.
Which are crossed by tabloids on a daily baises -_-

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

okay I've just read your response now (finally had the time).

I bow down to you :D I actually don't think you were that bad. I think you spoke of fact, truth - what we are all thinking. So give yourself a good pat on the back :D

And OMG if she thinks Dirk is an alcoholic - what does that make me? :P

Anyway, gosh - he's a star - he's supposed to have "lost weekends :D I reckon there are "stars" out there, losing more than weekends :P

[beckyblack]

He obviously takes Terry Pratchett's advice about the proper behaviour of convention guests:

I stroll along, talk, I sign books, people buy me drinks, I forget where my hotel is, I get lost and fall into some local body of water... done it hundreds of times. Going to a convention is fun!

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

Gosh, I've done all of the above, except sign books :D

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Consider my back patted ;-)

That whole drinking thing - my god. I started drinking when I was only a few years older than Dirk was, so I *know* from drinking. And to hear her tales of other conventions she goes to (not Dirk related) she's got a lot bigger problem with it than she even accuses him of. But basically, she takes bits and pieces of what he's said and puts them together in a whole new story to suit her perceptions...

I mean, let's face it (no pun intended ;-)) - a "drunk" could NOT raise two fine sons like he has. There just ain't no way.

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

Gees, just because one likes a drink, it doesn't make you a drunk!!! So Dirk likes a scotch... big bloody deal.

I like a drink! I make sure I have a drink at the weekends, too! That's my treat :D I don't get to go out and *socialise* like I use to, so I make sure I have a glass (or two or three) of wine or some bottles of lager over the weekend. I'm not an alcoholic :D honest!

I don't allow myself to drink during the week... just because well, for obvious reasons... health, diet, weight.. and we can't afford it!!! lol!

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

Bloody hell. I just get home from work knackered and read Star's response on DS and now I feel like doing cartwheels :D

Finally...she's been called out. You guys have no idea the utter crap she's been dishing out not only online but off.
She must think Dirk can't frickin' read and he's stupid.
Four years of the outright lies she's told online. OMFG.
The hate, the bitterness, she's so absorbed in it.
All this time I've sat back and said little because I was asked to. But no more. After that diatribe on DS, the gloves came off. She's slandered a good man, regardless of what he's thought of by the public. And a good friend.
He doesn't deserve what she's doing to him.

Star..thank you for saying what I could not.
I'm tired of this. It's been four F'ing years and I have NEVER encountered the likes of her in D's fandom. EVER.
She definately has earned a place in the DB obsessed fan hall of shame.

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

You know the little actress who played Cho Chang and therefore kissed "harry Potter (aka Dan Radcliff) got so many death threats that her dad was afraid to let her out of the house and had to plead with the fandom to stop.

I don't think you can legally have a fandom on the internet unless soemone is completely off the deep end.

Did you hear about the LotR fandom? Some of the things said about Sean Astin just boogle my mind and this was whole forums of people. I'm never sure what exactly Sean did to get the fandom hate but I think he once mentioned because he had a wife and new baby to support he almsot didn't play Sam because he was worried he wouldn't be able to suppor tthem and the travel would be too much on his new family. Fans were duly outraged. I mean how dare family come before the holy movie *sigh*


So frankly I'm almost more shocked that there is only one like her in Dirk's fandom than that she exists ^^;;

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

but I think he once mentioned because he had a wife and new baby to support he almsot didn't play Sam because he was worried he wouldn't be able to suppor tthem and the travel would be too much on his new family. Fans were duly outraged.

But he did star in LoTR's so what was the big deal? Some fans are CRAZY!!! The internet breeds them ;-O

[odonaill.livejournal.com]

Oh I know the nuts are everywhere. I did hear about the Cho Chang death threats in fact, with my kids being HP fans and all ;-)

Dirk's had obsessive types that I am aware of, but she's been the most "vocal". And, if you can believe it, he's had *worse* than her in the past.
It's all part and parcel of being in the public eye.
But this one is beyond ridiculous cuz she actually *believes* what she's posting. And wants everyone to believe it too.

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

Star..thank you for saying what I could not.

Ah well - as a lot of folks know - me and my big mouth... ;-)

I wonder if that's why so many of the managers at work turn the corner when they see me coming?

Hmmm...

[ostarella.livejournal.com]

My God - get home from work and find a whole library of posts has sprouted here. Don't you people have a life? LOL

I'm waiting to see what her response is - or maybe she's gone crying to the mods. Who knows? But I just had to say something at this point - I know, I know - I'm usually so quiet and demure, never get into fracases of any sort. This is so unusual for me, I'm all in a twitter...

So - the gist of the comments - we all agree she's certifiable, we all agree Dirk is the nicest of men and doesn't deserve this kind of treatment -

and Billy and I are both out of luck with the cruise fantasies.

Shit...

[mossy62.livejournal.com]

"So - the gist of the comments - we all agree she's certifiable, we all agree Dirk is the nicest of men and doesn't deserve this kind of treatment -"

Definitely. Is there any chance to get her banned from the Internet? ;-)

"and Billy and I are both out of luck with the cruise fantasies."

*PMSL*

[billy-shriner.livejournal.com]

and Billy and I are both out of luck with the cruise fantasies.

Shit...

I don't know... we could ask him really nicely :D