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ostarella ([personal profile] ostarella) wrote2007-12-15 10:00 am

Chapter 8 progress

I ran into a stumbling block with 8 - there was one small scene I wanted to include, just to anchor things with canon. I figured it was just a small thing, and even though I wanted it in there, it was bugging me as to how to do it. I couldn't figure out how the details from the scene in the show could fit, realistically, into this story. Nor how to "casually" bring it up. So, this morning, half-asleep, it came to me. Both solutions.

One - I took canon too literally.

Two - instead of making it an incidental - make it the culminating point of the chapter, *and* it figures heavily into the why's of the rest of the story.

I am Brilliant.

Okay, maybe just brighter than a burned out light bulb  ;-)

It was so neat, though - all I had to do was add two sentences to what I already had written and it changed the whole feeling of the chapter. That's what I love about writing - when suddenly, everything just...fits.

Now I just have to find time to get down and dirty with the details.

[identity profile] ostarella.livejournal.com 2007-12-15 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's creative interpretation and there's simply outrageous :-/ But good Lord, don't try to tell anyone that on *that* list - I know, been there, done that. Always amazes me how a group demands that people be open-minded about their genre and then turn around and refuse to reciprocate. No, actually if you push that to broader worlds, most people want others to accept their views but rarely want to reciprocate. But, yeah, with canon, I'll take liberties, but I really don't like to get too far off with characterization, because then one has to wonder if we're still writing about "our" guys or four other people LOL
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[personal profile] beckyblack 2007-12-15 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't even so much the creative/outrageous interpretation, as it was the implied misogyny behind it. Slash I love. Slash in which the women characters are evil harpies while the men are all angels, not my cup of tea.

I don't even know how it happens, when it's women writing this stuff. Shouldn't they be trying to write female characters that are more sympathetic or at least realistic? Heck I'd rather read a huge Mary Sue, than slash with a evil bitch (canon or not) who has nothing better to do with her time that try to break up the gay fellas. That just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. At least with a Sue I know the author wants me to like her, even if it doesn't work out that way!

[identity profile] ostarella.livejournal.com 2007-12-15 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think part of it is that some writers have a hard time writing bad guys, in general - but I know, even in het/gen - put an evil female in the mix and it's just horrible. Whatever characteristics a male BG would have are multiplied tenfold in a female.

Oh, man, could we open a can of worms with this: slash + terribly evil females = gender crisis? hahahaha

My bad...
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[personal profile] beckyblack 2007-12-15 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Female villains are probably the trickiest of all villains to write! I've done a couple in the past, and I'm doing one right now in the NaNo and I've got one for a future A-Team bunny that's in the planning stage. I just hope they work!

There's an odd sort of feeling that women doing bad things is worse than men doing the exact same bad things. As if they are betraying some ideal of femininity, some higher standard that men aren't held to. Not to say that men are forgiven for not reaching that standard, but more that they aren't even expected to be able to reach it.

[identity profile] ostarella.livejournal.com 2007-12-15 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, like there's some kind of psychology at work there - women villains are so bad, because we put the "evilness" we'd like to do into them - and we're not *supposed* to have that evilness, so we have to make it *really* bad (slapping our own wrists). But we condescendingly accept that men are inherently flawed, therefore, it's okay for them to do bad things without being evil.

Man, I just don't understand women. LOL